Valve Noise

 


 
12/28/00
From: Michael Selig

We just put on our ARB permalock rocker stud nuts. These units are about 1/8 longer, have threads clear down to the bottom, thicker walled, hardened steel. The set screws go deeper into the sleeve. They give a more positive fasten. They seemed to take care of the valve loosening problem we are having.

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Subj: Valve stem sleeves??
Date: 12/22/00
From:    mbs@tidalwave.com (Michael Selig)
CC:    nashwelding@aol.com (2 Rich Nash)

Rich was doing a few first start ups.  He noted there was a pinging noise and that it probably needed a valve adjustment.  I took the right valve cover off and found a little steel sleeve rolling out of the valve cover.  Number 4 inboard valve rocker was very loose, it looked like that sleeve fits right on the end of the valve stem and goes into a ridge of the rocker. There were some cuts made in the spring retainer from rocker ridges beating against retainer.
 
I wonder if anyone put Roller Rockers on their engines.  I suppose you could eliminate these small sleeves if you did.
 
This engine only had about 15 min of run time.  Makes me think if RW even adjusted the valves before they dyno tested the engine before programming the Fadec computers.
 
What do you think?  your pal ms
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Michael,
I found the article.  It was published in the September, 1996 Rotorheads
Magazine and written by Eric Cymbaliuk.  I have scanned the article and have
attached it as jpg files (2 Pages).  See "Builder's Corner" article.

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From: Gary Adams Valve stem sleeves??
Michael,
I have not done it myself, but I know that a lot of people have put Roller
Rockers on their engines.  I have an article around here somewhere about a
guy that was selling these as a kit for the Rotorway Engines.  I will try to
find the article and his name and address.
Gary W. Adams
5805 Colonial Hwy.

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Subj:Roller Rockers /Locking devices
Date:12/22/00
From:mbs@tidalwave.com (Michael Selig)

We are finding it very difficult to maintain proper valve lash settings.  On our first go around, the engine was making some clicking noise--ended up being a lash cap came off --rocker got very loose from the factory at about 15 min run time.  Then we put it back on and adjusted the valves.  A few minutes later another clicking noise --the pushrod came out of the rocker. 
 
I wonder if anyone put Roller Rockers on their engines.  All the GM engines now come with Roller Rockers.  I suppose you could eliminate these small sleeves if you did and would probably make the adjustment more stable, since there would not be that for/aft movement from the oblong hole in the rocker. 
 
Are there any better locking devices  for the studs as well, that anyone has used effectively????  
 
I do not suppose anti-pump up hydraulic lifters could be used??

Subj: Re: Valve stem sleeves??
Date: 12/22/00 4:51:33 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:    charlie@apk.net (charlie)

Michal, I put roller rockers on this year. I have a friend
that has run then for 2 yrs now. I let him be the guinea
pig.  Mark